theCardinal's Corner

Taken in context, why would Brimelow's remarks about his blue-eyed boy bother you? The reference was simply to highlight the insane collision between public policies of racial preferences, and the large-scale importation of people who (along with their children) will be eligible for them? It is unavoidable that white Americans will be hurt by this.

Is it wrong to point this out? Should this not be a part of the debate?
 

"You'd think they would at least try to hide the fact that they are racists."

Perhaps the posters you refer to are not terrified by the designation "racist." They might recognize for what it has become- a term used to silence anyone who discusses race and points out that the emperor has no clothes. If you have any substantive reply to Taylor's piece, I would enjoy reading it.

Respectfully,

Jim Jones

P.S. Yes, I am an avid fan of Vdare and Amren.
 

Racism of the Ku Kluxery/Aryan Nations type is the sort of weirdness that can sink any serious efforts at immigration reform.

That said, the value of VDare is that it raises for thoughtful consideration issues that are being brought up almost nowhere else. One does not have to agree with all the content - Paul Craig Roberts has clearly gone off his meds - to see the value in that. VDare material is a primary source for much of the best commentary being produced on immigration restriction, and a great link to much of the rest.

American Renaissance is a different story. Its website focuses more on making available media stories that are, in this sensitive, censurous multiculturalist era, suppressed by most of the media. These are the sorts of stories that call into question the multiculturalist dogma that we are all brainwashed with nowadays. They are also the sorts of stories you will almost certainly not find in your local paper.

The comments by readers are hit or miss (mostly miss), but if you read between the drive-by rantings you will find some absolute gems - and some pretty insightful folks. These aren't the kind of people likely to be employed down at the local hog-rendering plant. That's the advantages (and dangers) of a basically open forum like AmRen.

Returning to a sane immigration policy is going to require approaching the issue from a lot of angles: some from an economic perspective, some from the perspective of cultural and political compatibility, some are environmental, and some are related to serious, unmitigatible group behaviors. Upper middle-class people who flat-out don't care about the economic perspective ight be more receptive to a cultural one.

As uncomfortable as it may seem, VDare and AmRen are approaching the issues from perspectives that matter to a lot of (non-racist) people.
 

The "Taylor piece" you refer to is full of demographic statistice -- you know, fact, i.e. the outcome of (one kind of) modern empirical social science. Why is this a problem for you? Do you think that one reason -- among many, no doubt -- that Mexico is a poor country is that it is full of Mexicans?
 

Personal insults are the last recourse for an exhausted mind. Calling someone a "racist" because you don't agree with them is a childish way of saying you have nothing of importance to add to a discussion.

I read Mr. Taylor's article that set off your boorish rant and found it hard hitting as well as persuasive. But I was hard pressed to find anything in it that was hateful. What exactly did you find racist and why
 

Personal insults are the last recourse for an exhausted mind. Calling someone a "racist" because you don't agree with them is a childish way of saying you have nothing of importance to add to a discussion.

I read Mr. Taylor's article that set off your boorish rant and found it hard hitting as well as persuasive. But I was hard pressed to find anything in it that was hateful. What exactly did you find racist and why
 

I'm at work so I will try to address as thoroughly as I can in the time provided.

The blue-eyed reference seemed odd and out of place in Alien Nation, what would the difference be if his son was blue-eyed or brown? Does that mean that the blue-eyed discriminate against the brwon and we just don't know it? Perhaps I am sensitive as a member of the only branch of my family with dark eyes.

Yes racism has been used to silence many by the PC police, which is why I usually hesitate to throw it out there. Nonetheless I did so because I think it fits, if you disagree I respect your opinion but you are not going to convince me otherwise.

I am unlikely to subscribe to a racialist/biological theory behind intelligence (Murray and Seligman came close). I have the fortune of managing a multi-racial/ethnic workforce and I can assure you that intelligence, nor for that matter stupidity, is not the sole province of one particular group. Ignorance seems to be spread pretty even across the board.

I hate calling myself a fan of VDARE because I don't think I am but I read it more often than most. I particularly enjoy Alan Walls "Memos". My frustration with VDARE is that it is right in so many ways but by associating with the fringes it risks getting its message being ignored. Despite the fact that my parents were not born in America I am thoroughly proud of being an American. It is this country that I adore, appreciate and respect. I agree that there is an assimilation problem in this country that needs to be addressed. What made this nation great in terms of its people was the concept of melting pot. The multicultural quilt championed by most immigration advocates will quickly fray and destroy everything that we stand for. This is an issue that VDARE addresses but one that will not get heard if they stick with AmRen.

Let me also state that after reading Brimelow's review in NR of Paved With Good Intentions I picked it up so it isn't like I am judging AmRen or Taylor based on a fanciful notion what he and his publication are about. I read AmRen for an extended period of time (even still in my favorite links) before I realized that my complexion would exclude me from its target audience.

As for the last Taylor piece I confess it was not one of his worst. And I hate to be nitpicky but its tone was still one that was less than respectful or dispassionate. That is my perception and my belief, if you choose to feel otherwise so be it.

I'm sorry that third comment was anonymous because I completely understand where that writer is coming from. I completely agree with the attraction to both sites - that is why I read them avidly before dropping AmRen altogether and distancing myself from VDARE. As for Paul Craig Roberts I have no idea what happened to him. Growing up in the Reagan years I was a huge Roberts fan (I was obviously a dork) but at some point something went seriously screwy. Maybe there was something in the water that supply siders drank or maybe Wanninski was contagious
 

I have the fortune of managing a multi-racial/ethnic workforce and I can assure you that intelligence, nor for that matter stupidity, is not the sole province of one particular group. Ignorance seems to be spread pretty even across the board.

Your comment has the feel of the old (alleged) comment by the late movie critic Pauline Kael. After the Nixon election she is supposed to have wondered how he could have won, since she didn't know anyone who voted for him.

In any particular workplace most people are probably doing pretty much the same thing. Whether it's the Ford assembly line, a UPS facility, a slaughterhouse, or a white-shoe law firm, jobs tend to attract people of roughly similar intelligence, even with affirmative action but especially without it. The real differences are between workplaces. The whites and blacks and Hispanics and Asians at the UPS facility all probably have roughly similar intelligence. Cut across town to the pharmaceutical lab and you'll find similar results. But you'll find a lot more Hispanics and blacks at the UPS facility than at the pharmaceutical lab, and a lot more whites and Asians at the pharm lab than the UPS facility. That's where the differences come in.

My frustration with VDARE is that it is right in so many ways but by associating with the fringes it risks getting its message being ignored.

Point well made. You can never remind them enough not to stray too far into no-man's land. They perform a valuable service by challenging the multiculti mullahs, and it would be ashame for them to lose what respect they've earned.